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It is indeed possible for a Christian to lose salvation. So there may be fear in the hearts of people who have been Christians, but who are fallen from grace. These are not people who simply sinned (because that isn’t what causes a fall from grace). These are people who have at one time been a Christian who have now rejected Christ.
Yes, there are those who were REALLY Christians that left the faith. There are a number of reasons they will give for their falling from grace. Some claim that God left them or somehow broke His word. The attack of Satan has caused them to harden their hearts towards God.
But once they come to a place where their heart can be softened again is there any hope of salvation? These people have tasted and seen that God is good and yet walked away from Him. No doubt, there are many asking how to come back to God after falling away.
The answer is yes! There is hope for those who have once been in the faith and yet left it. Some may think that is untrue because of certain scriptures such as Hebrews 6, which we will be talking about in this unit. But the truth is that even those who have known God but renounced the faith have a chance to return.
We spoke of what it means to be born again in unit 3:4b. It means the soul of a person, which was dead in sins and distant from God, has new life breathed into it. This new life comes from the Holy Spirit, which takes up residence within a person. At that point, a person has their own soul brought to life because the Spirit of God, which is the breath of life, is abiding with us.
Job 33:4
The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
So if a person’s soul has been “born again” (had life breathed into it) what happens if that life breathing Spirit of God departs? Obviously, without the Spirit of God, which gives life, there is only death.
Now, I know I just hit a nerve with some people by using the words “Spirit of God departs.“ After all, Jesus said He would never leave us nor forsake us. This is the truth. Jesus did say that and His word is sure. It will not fail. If He said it then He meant it!
But what happens if WE are the ones doing the forsaking? That would mean the statement Jesus made has not been broken, and yet there is still a separation. God remains who He is, and where He is, but we are the ones who moved. We are the ones who rejected Him.
So even though the Spirit of God Himself will not leave you it doesn’t mean that you can not depart from Him. Of course, there is still another objection about this that someone may try to raise, which I would like to answer now as well.
John 10:27-30
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one.
Romans 8:35 And 38-39
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Many believe these passages are great scriptures to prove that once a person is saved they can not lose salvation. They also believe these verses show that we can not walk away from God through our own will. They say there is no escape from the hand of God.
This does seem logical, in a certain way. Since God is all powerful there is no way that ANYTHING could escape His grasp. But does that mean He will not allow us to walk away? No, He WILL allow us to do that.
In earlier units, we already spoke of the difference between the promise and the reality of salvation. We also gave verses which show without a question that even a Christian can become lost. That is obviously a direct contradiction to the thought that we can not walk away from God if we so chose.
So let’s examine the scriptures above and see if they really do say what some people believe them to say.
John 10:27-39
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
“And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish,” Jesus is speaking of the sheep that follow Him. Thus, those who FOLLOW Him are given eternal life and they will never perish. Remember, we have the promise of eternal life when we follow Jesus, but the reality has not yet come to pass until we are actually raised from the dead.
“Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” This is not saying a person can not leave on their own freewill. It says no man can pluck them out of my hand. In other words, it is saying no outside force can snatch you away (plucked out). This does not, however, say that no one on the INSIDE can remove THEMSELVES from God’s hand.
Verse 29 follows the same thought. No outside force can remove you from the hands of God. But, it does not say that God will deny a person the right to leave, on their own freewill.
Romans 8:35 And 38-39 also speak of an outside force. It does not speak of someone on the inside being held as a prisoner. The hands of God are protection, not prison. Another thing to note is that you can love someone even if they are lost. The love of the Father, which is also in Christ Jesus (as they are one), is not dependent on a person being righteous or not.
You can love what you hate. The two are not incompatible. A person may love food, but hate it at the same time, because even though they enjoy it they do not enjoy what it does to them. A parent can love their child and yet still hate them at the same time because of their actions. You can love and hate at the same time. Hate is not the opposite of love.
So now that we have addressed that issue we can move on.
When a person chooses to deny the faith that they once had they depart from God, and fall from grace. This causes their soul to, once again, take on death since they have left the source of life. The Holy Ghost is no longer in communion with their soul.
There are many verses which speak of the Holy Spirit as being a seal that preserves us. It is called the earnest of our inheritance. This means as long as the Holy Spirit is within us, breathing life into our souls, we are protected from death.
Again, God will not forsake us. But, He will not imprison us either. If we forsake Him then He will not force us to remain with Him. He will let us walk away.
Judges 10:13
Yet ye have forsaken me, and served other gods: wherefore I will deliver you no more.
2 Chronicles 15:2
And he went out to meet Asa, and said unto him, Hear ye me, Asa, and all Judah and Benjamin; The Lord is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.
So again, WE forsake Him and He LETS us walk away. This is why the Bible says that IF WE forsake Him HE WILL ALSO forsake us. Not because He chose to do so, but because we forced Him to no longer be with us by walking away. He will let us go (forsake us) if we chose.
There are some verses that may seem to imply that a person who has left the faith can not return to God.
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hebrews 10:17-18 and 26-31
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
These are some very powerful verses. They really do seem to imply that if a Christian departs from the faith then there is no way to return to God. But this is not actually what they say. We will examine them closer (as we did above with John 10:27-39) to see if what we THINK they say is REALLY what they say or not. Because often we read more into things than is there.
But first, let me provide some other verses which would seem to contradict this thought if it is correct.
Revelation 2:4-5
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Jesus Himself was speaking to a people who had left their first love, and who had fallen from grace.
Some believe the first love it speaks of here is evangelism rather than Jesus Himself. This belief doesn’t hold up under examination though since you must love Jesus FIRST before you can love evangelism. This is the reason the greatest of the commandments begins with loving God first, and others second.
Also, in Luke 15 we find the story of the prodigal son. This was not a servant or someone unknown to the father. This was a son. The SON left his FATHER. But when he remembered from where he was fallen he repented and came to his father, now humbled. His father accepted him back as one who was dead and now alive.
This story told by Jesus does not begin with the son already out in the world. It begins with him being in his father’s household. This is one way we can know that Jesus is not speaking of someone who never knew their father.
The wonderful thing about it is that the son who had left his father came to his senses later on. His hard heart was turned back to his father and he repented. His father did not reject him when he returned but instead took him back as his son. It was as though he had never left. It was as though his son had simply died, and was now alive again.
So if these things speak of returning to God AFTER FALLING FROM GRACE then how can it be saying a person can not do so in the book of Hebrews? The simple answer is that it DOESN’T say that in Hebrews. We just read something into it that isn’t there.
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Here we see it say in verses 4-6 that those who have known God and been Christians can not be renewed UNTO repentance. The word “renewed” means to “begin again, or start over from the beginning.” The word “unto” is like saying you are “going unto the end“. It simply means “to cover a distance until you reach a destination.”
So these verses say that a person who once knew of God and became a Christian can not go all the way to the beginning. They can not begin again as though they never knew God.
Like the prodigal son. He could not go back to his father and become a servant because it was impossible for him to be less than the son of his father. He could never say he did not know what it was to be a son.
This is why verse 6 also says that doing so would “crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.” Because it would be like saying they never knew Jesus, even though they once were Christians. It would be a denial of everything they once knew of their Father. Thus, it would be an open shame.
So these verses do not show that a person can not repent. They only show that a person can not become as if they never knew God in the first place. They can not simply have their memory wiped clear. So they don’t start over. They just return again as though they had never left.
They can not have Jesus purchase them again by His blood since He already paid the price. He doesn’t have to pay again for what is His in the first place. He can revive his “dead son” but he can not pretend the person was never His son in the first place.
Hebrews 10:17-18
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
In 17 we see God say that He will no longer remember their sins. This is because they are forgiven and “swept under the rug” so to speak. This is also known as “remission of sins.” So in verse 18, when we see it say that there is no more offering for sin, we have to ask, “Why would we need another?” Our sins are forgiven through Jesus, and if our sins are forgiven we no longer need a sacrifice to forgive us of something already taken care of.
Take note in these verses that it does not say a person can not be forgiven if they walk away, nor does it say that another sacrifice would be needed if they did. It simply says that since our sins are forgiven we do not need another sacrifice.
Hebrews 10:26
26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Again, we see here that there is no more sacrifice for sins even if we walk away. What does this mean? We can take this to mean that the blood of Jesus is no longer able to cover us, or we can take it to mean that there is no OTHER sacrifice that can cover us.
Hebrews 10:28-29
28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
First, let’s look at verse 28. What was Moses’ law in relation to sacrifice? It was that if you sinned you would need a sacrifice to be forgiven of that sin. So, how could someone despise this? Simply by sinning without offering a sacrifice. Thus, they would be in disobedience by not only committing sin but also by not believing (or caring) that God would forgive them through a sacrifice.
Going on into verse 29 we will remember the context of verse 28. What does it mean for someone to “trod underfoot the Son of God?” It means that person counts it to be of little value (or beneath them). Going on from there we read the rest of the verse.
“And hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing,” Again, this person counts the blood of Jesus as having little value and unable to save them.
From there we read “and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace.” Despite means “without being affected by; in spite of or contempt; disdain.” In short, a person who has done despite unto the Spirit of grace has treated the grace (goodwill) of God with contempt and counts it as ineffective.
In all of those verses, there is NOWHERE that we find the Bible say that the blood of Jesus is not enough to cover someone who has left the faith. We find NOWHERE that it says a person can not return to Jesus, as the prodigal son who was alive, then dead, and now alive again.
In fact, it says the opposite! It says that if you count the blood of Jesus as not being enough to cover ALL sins, even of someone who once walked away, then you have done despite unto the Spirit of grace.
These are not verses which say you can not be saved from hell. These are verses that say only those who count God as unable to save them from hell can not be saved from it!
It is blasphemy to say God cannot, or will not, save the repentant soul!
So to sum this all up, we have discovered that even a Christian who has left the faith can indeed return to Jesus through repentance. They can not begin as though they never knew Him to begin with, though. They simply come to their father and ask for forgiveness. Once again, the Holy Spirit abides in them as the son of the Father and breathes life into them.
THERE IS HOPE!
In the next unit, we will be talking about one more thing that affects the topic of forgiveness and salvation. We are going to address what Jesus was talking about when He spoke of someone never having forgiveness if they blaspheme the Holy Ghost.
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June 23, 2016 at 6:51 pm | | 118 comments
My story is that I was born again at the age of 23. That was 38 years ago. For the first year or 2 of my spiritual walk my life was great. The Holy Spirit helped me kick the addiction of alcohol and marijuana, and I lived a clean life, attending church every Sunday. I spent night and day in God’s Word. It was the best time of my life. However one day the frustration of still not having a job (I lived on welfare when I was born again), no money, no car, no girlfriend, and so on got the better of me. I was at the time waiting on a phone call with an offer of a job I had applied for some months ago, but I grew tired of waiting. I felt that although I had the fruits of the spirit, I had nothing else to show for it. My friends at church all had cars, money and jobs, and I shared a flat with another church-goer, a small bed, a dressing table and a robe (not mine) in my room. In hindsight, I had everything in the way of the Holy Spirit, but the desires of my flesh one day made me lash out at God in anger. I felt his love all over me and in me, telling me to just wait a little longer, yet I hardened my heart and said ‘get lost’. At that moment something left me. I knew instantly I had made a big mistake. I immediately asked God to forgive me but I knew something was different. I no longer felt the presence of the Holy Spirit. I started suffering from constant tension headaches. I could no longer read my bible without experiencing extreme tiredness. The words no longer jumped off the page at me. I was no longer directed to passages in the bible that refer to the cross, as I did previously whenever I sinned and repented, and sought God’s forgiveness.
I tried seeking God for some weeks, months after that but nothing worked (though today in hindsight I didn’t seek him with a true broken, contrite heart for what I had done). I always found myself at the verses that referred to the unforgivable sin, and judgement, and references to those who have trodden on the spirit of grace, and so on and so on. It was a living nightmare. I stopped going to church. My well-used bible by this time was starting to fall apart (to me this was another sign that my christian walk was all over), so I threw it in the bin. Long story short, I grappled with what had occured but God was silent. He no longer ‘got all over me’ if I had the thought of not going to church, like he did when I walked with him. Though I know now (after again seeking the Lord), what actually occurred spiritually when I rebelled – for many years I didn’t. I wondered if I was ‘unborn’. My mind was in a spin. My spiritual life was empty. I moved on to alcohol and a worldly life with work associates (the job I was waiting for arrived only a couple of short weeks after this incident), to try and blot out the pain. I longed for God (and still do) but my mind couldn’t deal with my spiritual state. The church I had been attending disbanded about the same time so I had no-one to turn to. For many years, the only way I could function in life was to not think about the possibility of what had occured. I decided I was lost forever, but had to move on as best I could without the blessed Holy Spirit in my life. This ‘state’ of mind continued up until a couple of months ago, at which time realising I had huge biblical resources via the internet (of course such a thing never existed when I fell from grace in 1988), I decided to once again try and get an understanding of my spiritual state and my standing before God. I decided I would discover I was either lost to God for eternity, and that there is/was no way back, or by some slim sliver of hope there just might be a way back into the fold. Thanks to these resources, I am all but 100% convinced I did not commit the ‘unforgivable sin’, which in hindsight I believe the enemy had convinced me of committing for many many years. By faith, realising the Holy Spirit had left me as per my ignorant choice all those years before, I saw a glimmer of hope. If this is true, then it means I have commited the sin of rebellion, and that God, through his mercy, might just forgive me of this. I have repented and turned from sin. Instead of running from God, I have turned my face back to him. I continue to read and watch sermons, seeking answers, hence how I came across your post. This is an excellent website. So many teachings either dont satisfactorily address Hebrews 6:4-6 and other similar verses, or they are explained as though a born-again believer can have no hope, even if they turn to God with a contrite heart. But I have been watching some sermons by another pastor who emphasises God’s grace (https://www.youtube.com/@RyanRufusNNM) and I feel his messages are more in line with the God I once fellowshipped with. I believe all those who are damned are because they choose to be, by not wanting to accept Jesus’s sacrifice for them. I also believe God’s mercy, love, and forgiveness is far greater than anything the human mind can comprehend.
So, in turning back to and seeking the Lord these last few months there are a couple of things that I have changed my mind on that has given me a faint glimmer of hope for my current spiritual condition. I am now convinced that I am still ‘born-again’ but that God simply took away the helper through my choice at the time ie the Holy Spirit. He didn’t leave me – I left him. And I don’t believe I committed the unforgivable sin. I have prayed, asking God that if there be any way back to him to please show me. I have confessed aloud verses such as “there is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus” by faith, and the tension headaches I had for so many years have gone. If this were not true in my case, I would think the headaches would remain? I have also found posts on the internet by other Christians that they were in the same state as me (I believe you said you were to?) but that the Holy Spirit came back to them! So, to my mind, this must mean I am still a born again Christian? Without his help I am on my own to try and figure out if I can still claim my salvation, so it’s hard to say if it’s God or just my mind, but I feel that if there is a way out of my current state, it will be through faith. The explanations on this website resonate true. To tread under foot I believe means to tell myself Jesus can not save me. That’s not my state. I believe he still can. With God all things are possible, and I believe a verse of scripture cannot override (or make untrue) another verse. So this verse I believe is addressed to those that turn or rebel against God and dont turn back. Either through choice, or through disbelief. As emphasised on this website, Israel rebelled and turned from God many times but he always welcomed them back. The prodigal son is another verse that encourages me. I believe I am still a son of God (albeit one that rejected God for a season), and therefore a member of his household. I believe that if I can return, which I am trying to do, he will accept me back as a son, and not as a servant. Maybe God is testing my faith? But truths such as “without faith it is impossible to please him” I feel bubble up from within me. IF there is a way back, I am convinced it MUST be by faith. I have to take the first step, claiming his promises, speaking his Word. I was saved by faith in the beginning. I believe I am called by God and that his word says he will complete his work in those that are chosen, but I MUST take him at his word. I feel I must start at the point of faith. I read that the sacrifice God desires on the altar is that of a broken, contrite heart (Psalm 51:17). Watching an excellent sermon on youtube the other day I momentarily felt the presence of God. If there is a way back to him, it will likely be a long road (as has been the case that I have read posted by other Christians). I need the blessed Holy Spirit back. I ask that you pray for me. I look forward to any advice or help you can give me.
YES! You are absolutely right. It has always been by grace we are saved through faith.
Here’s some extra information you should know. You can have God dwelling in you and not feel it. I’ve had to learn that there may be no “confirmation” that you have been accepted. This is because faith doesn’t require confirmation. So it doesn’t matter how you feel. The key is to trust that if He says it in the Bible then it is true if you feel it or not.
This is what I had to learn myself. When I first came to Him I felt it. But after time I ended up feeling nothing. Then fear set in. Finally I would lose faith. Not in God, but in my own salvation.
Eventually, after searching for a long time and also seeing other teaching on the subject that wasn’t well taught I came to a place where I had to take a step of faith with no confirmation. If God said He would not deny those that come to Him then He means it. So I decided to simply trust Him, confirmation or not.
For a while it almost felt like “fake it until you make it”. But I knew I was not faking that I believe His word. I was trusting that I was His even if I didn’t feel like it.
Eventually I came to understand why I went through it. It’s the testing of faith that many, if not all, of us go through. It’s where we really learn to walk by faith and not sight (confirmation).
I have indeed felt Him since then and I have seen other confirmations that He is within. But I have also learned that the only thing which determines what is true or not is His word. His word alone should confirm it for us.
This is something I have told people seeking to return more than anything else. Because in almost every case the people don’t feel like the Spirit is with them. But when you understand that it doesn’t matter you can begin to truly understand faith.
If He said it He means it. If He says He will accept the prodigal son then He will. If He says He will in no way cast out those that come to Him then He won’t. So when you ask Him to take you back it is done immediately! You don’t have to feel a thing. You just have to believe Him.
Learning to walk like this will change a lot of things. Prayer becomes different. Reality itself changes. You change. Suddenly nothing but what He said can be considered truth. If He says the mountain in front of you doesn’t exist then you trust that it doesn’t even if all your natural senses say it does.
So if you asked for Him to forgive and accept you and you truly mean it then it is already done.
Thank you so much for this study Boy was I struggling with this as a prodigal son The devil is continually condemning me saying I went to far and God will not have me back I needed some simple clarification and this was very helpful God bless you and this ministry So many need to hear this
Thank you for this. When my wife died from complications of Alzheimer’s Disease I fell away. In my anger I rejected God and told him to go away, cursing at him. I returned to agnosticism. That was in 2018. I have feared the unpardonable sin, and or losing my ability to be saved because I fell away. I hope that you are correct that having come to my senses I can return again to my Faith similar to the parable of the prodigal son. I feel at peace, thank you.
That’s why I do this. Just remember one thing for me. Feelings come and go, His word remains forever. I am very happy for you to feel at peace though.
Thank you this post helped me allot god bless.
Thank you for being the vessel for providing answers to my questions. I am 58, the breadwinner in my home, and was arrested for a very stupid felony offense I committed years ago. I am now jobless and my Godless past is preventing me from employment in my field. I didn’t hurt anyone except myself. I have repented of my sinful life. I know these are consequences of my sin, but I want to move forward in his will, without my family having to suffer for my behavior. God bless you! Jennifer
I think I’m pretty sure I lost my salvation. I’m so tormented and distressed so much all the time because I let sin rule my life. I have no excuses. I’m just hoping the Lord will have mercy on me. I was born again when I was 9 and I was so fascinated by Jesus. I used to keep Jesus in my heart all the time and stay away from sin. I started to live a worldly life. The same sins I used to hate were the same sins I fell into. I remember when I would talk to the Lord for so long like He was my best friend because I knew He was listening. I remember when I would feel the Lord’s presence and love all over me and I’d just cry in it. I remember when He would call me out of my sin and just accept me and fill me with His love and acceptance. I remember when my faith was immovable. I remember when I had full certainty that I was accepted by Jesus. I remember when I’d just cry out to the Lord and He’d rescue me. I remember when He’d just show me His goodness and I’d cry and ask Him why He’s so good to me. I miss the Lord’s presence so much. Why didn’t I let go of sin. Sin is so empty. The Lord’s presence truly is EVERYTHING I could ask for. He’s so fulfilling. He’s everything. He is so nice and so loving when we don’t deserve it.
I miss the Lord’s presence :((((((
I just feel tormented all the time. Spiritually and emotionally distressed. I wish I stayed with the Lord. I have no excuses. I can’t be mad at God because all He did was be good to me. This is all my fault. The Lord is so loving and so sweet. He’s so nice. I wish I stayed with Him. He’s sooooooo nice and so kind. The Lord is so sweet. I’m nothing without Him. I wish I had stayed with Him in His loving arms. His love for us is soooo vast and He loves us so much I can’t even explain His love. :((((( He truly is the best I hope He can restore me and I can become His daughter again. Sin is NOTHING compared to the love of God.
Prayers and advice please 🙁
If anyone wants to talk please reply
Do what you did in the beginning. Accept Him at His word. No need to have feelings of His presence. He hides Himself at times in a cloud the Bible says. He doesn’t always let us feel Him near. But you must walk by faith and not sight. Believe Him even if you don’t feel a thing!
Hi my name is Daniel. I grew up in a Christian home and was baptized as a child and was a believer. My parents divorced when I was 14 and they stopped going to church so I stopped. I fell away and lived in sin till now. I’m 22. The whole time I knew I wasn’t living like I should and that I was sinning and I fell into some really bad habits with porn and other things. I even stopped feeling bad for doing these things. I had a wake up call recently in the form of a YouTube video saying to choose God. It scared me and reminded me that I need to turn back to Christ. It’s been so long and I feel so lost. I’ve been in a terrible depression because I feel too far gone and that I don’t have any emotions or feel bad for my sins. I know God hates them and I have fear and I don’t want to do them anymore. I want to walk with God and feel the Holy Spirit again. Not only that but when I was a young teen I started getting intrusive thoughts. Thoughts that are not my own. Thoughts of selling my soul or renouncing my faith. I’ve had these non stop almost every day since I was a young teen. I’ve never given in to them even when I was living in sin because I knew they were wrong and not my own and even when I lived in sin I would never renounce God on purpose or sell my soul or anything of the sort. I’ve been compulsively repenting and trying to read my Bible. I went to church last Sunday for the first time in years and they all prayed over me which is amazing. But I guess I expected to feel something and I felt the same which put me into an even deeper depression and anxiety. I just want peace. Feel free to email me or reply thank you
I know it has been a long time for this reply, and I will email you as well. The very first thing I want you to understand is that feelings are not confirmation of anything. The question is, do you believe God said He would forgive? Do you believe He meant it? What can stop Him from honoring His word?
You will have to accept this by faith alone. There may be no feelings or anything to confirm it. But you must deicide if God tells the truth and if you believe it over what you feel or experience.
Many ARE NOT ELECTED
I just want to say thank you for this post I’ve been struggling over the past couple years with this I was saved at a younger age around 17 fell in love with the lord and his ways and was so joyous to belong to my father I sang praises from my heart and wept for the unsaved I became baptized and even produced fruit but I struggled with lust, alcohol and depression. I joined the military at 21 married my highschool sweetheart and moved to my first base. I struggled with sin so much even after “repenting” and crying to god saying I’m sorry. I felt more and more distant from Jesus as I continued but kept going and then i came across these verses and esau and became terrified i instantly felt as though my heart became cold and the Holy Spirit had left me as I continued to willfully sin over the next few months I wept and depression came on me like it never had I felt as though I was dying from my own fear and anxiety I was contemplating suicide and the only reason I held on is because I knew what awaited me on the other side I began to seek god and fight back after coming to realization I had no other choice and yet as I fought for awhile I STILL went to my sin after all I had gone through like a fool this went on for another long while maybe 6 months of me continuing to seek god but hold onto sin and then finally after years of fighting I finally left the sin I struggled so hard with and turned back to god just a week ago I repented and gave it all up again and surrendered back to Christ and it was genuine I felt as though my heart melted and I felt peace and joy like hadn’t in years however the enemy came quick began to attack me but now I’m realizing how important gods word is and how much more powerful it is to rely on then my feelings and my worries even though my mind and heart are troubled with these things I did/ done I guess I just want to know if there is hope or have I really gone to far and is god done with me
I was really starting to have the devil make this verse grow into something that it’s not while I was working on an assignment for my class (a Christian college), and I was starting to think that this meant that God was not really going to allow me into heaven, but that He was going to turn me away because I once turned away from Him. It was a lot like someone’s response. The devil really DOES want us to think that God is cruel. Thank God I found Christian wisdom on the internet (sometimes a hard thing to come by). As I was reading, the Holy Spirit was reminding me of the parable of the prodigal son, and I was reminded that that’s exactly what I am. If God is LOVE, how on His green earth could He be a cruel creator? I’m also now reminded of the parable of the sheep, and how He leaves the 99 to seek out the one. I was a prodigal son and a lost sheep. He is my Father and my Shepherd. I’m just glad the Holy Spirit led me to this page. It really helped to set me straight. Praise God!